Comments on: Good times http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/ Semi-geeky musings, links, and observations by an all-geeky college student. Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:17:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jordon http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7406 Jordon Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:43:14 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7406 Actually, I don't think it will be that bad. The people who will decide to go to the presentation are the people who are interested in the idea, and the people who are interested in the idea are probably well educated and informed about the world. And do Esperanto characters really get eaten in the comments? Aĉe. Actually, I don’t think it will be that bad. The people who will decide to go to the presentation are the people who are interested in the idea, and the people who are interested in the idea are probably well educated and informed about the world.

And do Esperanto characters really get eaten in the comments? Aĉe.

]]> By: mankso http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7405 mankso Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:39:50 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7405 Don't give way to that temptation, Jordon! After watching that video, I'm beginning to think that maybe 'creepy' might not have been so far off, after all. Now I'm beginning to see why many people think thus. I thought your prospective audience was supposed to be college-age (& presumably well educated and informed about the world), not junior high wind-heads or a bunch of rappers. Now I'm all agog to hear what the reaction will be! Chacun à son goût! La mondo atendas vian nova?on. Don’t give way to that temptation, Jordon! After watching that video, I’m beginning to think that maybe ‘creepy’ might not have been so far off, after all. Now I’m beginning to see why many people think thus. I thought your prospective audience was supposed to be college-age (& presumably well educated and informed about the world), not junior high wind-heads or a bunch of rappers. Now I’m all agog to hear what the reaction will be! Chacun à son goût! La mondo atendas vian nova?on.

]]> By: Jordon http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7404 Jordon Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:15:57 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7404 Another great source of ideas. I'm tempted just to play that video, in fact. Another great source of ideas. I’m tempted just to play that video, in fact.

]]> By: Brian Barker http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7403 Brian Barker Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:40:16 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7403 Many people think Esperanto "creepy" Jordon. Let them see http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8837438938991452670 Many people think Esperanto “creepy” Jordon.

Let them see http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8837438938991452670

]]> By: Jordon http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7402 Jordon Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:54:16 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7402 Yes, I realize that now. Thanks for the good wishes, and stay tuned to hear how it goes. Yes, I realize that now. Thanks for the good wishes, and stay tuned to hear how it goes.

]]> By: mankso http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7401 mankso Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:31:09 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7401 Sorry to create a minor stir! - if the word 'manifesto' is likely to cause so many problems in the USA, simply don't mention it. Chiu el la 7 punktoj tamen estas nepre menciinda, kaj ech mencienda, k donos bonan bazon por inteligenta kaj informplena diskutado! Bonan sukceson kaj bonan kuraghon al vi. Sorry to create a minor stir! – if the word ‘manifesto’ is likely to cause so many problems in the USA, simply don’t mention it. Chiu el la 7 punktoj tamen estas nepre menciinda, kaj ech mencienda, k donos bonan bazon por inteligenta kaj informplena diskutado! Bonan sukceson kaj bonan kuraghon al vi.

]]> By: Jordon http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7400 Jordon Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:52:02 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7400 Thanks, Luke. mankso does make some good points that I'll try to consider, though. It should help me give a framework for my argument. Thanks, Luke. mankso does make some good points that I’ll try to consider, though. It should help me give a framework for my argument.

]]> By: Luke http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7399 Luke Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:41:59 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7399 Manifestos make me think of the scene in Portait of the Artist where the supporters of the Tsar try to get Stephen to sign on for "world peace." But that's just me... I say from talking to Jordon that he has a good handle on why people should try Esperanto and citing reasons from other people would only weaken his argument. Manifestos make me think of the scene in Portait of the Artist where the supporters of the Tsar try to get Stephen to sign on for “world peace.” But that’s just me…

I say from talking to Jordon that he has a good handle on why people should try Esperanto and citing reasons from other people would only weaken his argument.

]]> By: Jordon http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7398 Jordon Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:49:46 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7398 What I really wanted to do was just present Esperanto as sort of a nifty little thing that people can draw their own conclusions about. Citing a "Manifesto" from the outset would give a bad first impression to people who would otherwise be interested. The same goes for any mention of Zamenhof, which might be considered cult-like. (<a href="http://www.idiom.com/~cxarli/esperanto/verkoj/varbi.html" rel="nofollow">These</a> <a href="http://hungario.hu/esencoj/2008/02/08/ripetigantaj-fusoj-en-la-informado-pri-esperanto/" rel="nofollow">guides</a> have been useful.) Having said that, I would probably imply the Prague ideals in my lecture (as well as the <i>praceloj</i>, because I'm that kind of person). The last time I checked, my college library did have a few books in and about Esperanto. I did a search online while I was away for the summer, but I'll have to look again since I'm just a short walk away. What I really wanted to do was just present Esperanto as sort of a nifty little thing that people can draw their own conclusions about. Citing a “Manifesto” from the outset would give a bad first impression to people who would otherwise be interested. The same goes for any mention of Zamenhof, which might be considered cult-like. (These guides have been useful.) Having said that, I would probably imply the Prague ideals in my lecture (as well as the praceloj, because I’m that kind of person).

The last time I checked, my college library did have a few books in and about Esperanto. I did a search online while I was away for the summer, but I’ll have to look again since I’m just a short walk away.

]]> By: mankso http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/10/05/good-times/#comment-7397 mankso Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:05:31 +0000 http://www.theworldofstuff.com/?p=674#comment-7397 Creepy?! Call it whatever you like, but the 7 points of the Prague Manifesto are an intelligent and modern attempt to summarize what Esperanto is all about. If you'd prefer to stick with LLZ and 1887 (peace, love, friendship, non-nationalism, brotherhood of mankind etc. etc.) it's your choice. Maybe your campus is different, but up here (in Canada) I don't think you'd get too far with all the 1887 stuff these days. If few in the audience have personal experience of the frustrating inability to communicate with other-language speakers, of language-based discrimination, or of language problems in the EU, then there might be some difficulty in explaining the concept of 'universal bilingualism' to monolinguals [YOUR ethnic language + non-ethnic Esperanto for all]. If any linguistics majors show up, you might consider asking them why Esperanto is rarely mentioned in N. American linguistics textbooks. (By the way, does your college library have any up-to-date books on/in Esperanto?) Creepy?! Call it whatever you like, but the 7 points of the Prague Manifesto are an intelligent and modern attempt to summarize what Esperanto is all about. If you’d prefer to stick with LLZ and 1887 (peace, love, friendship, non-nationalism, brotherhood of mankind etc. etc.) it’s your choice. Maybe your campus is different, but up here (in Canada) I don’t think you’d get too far with all the 1887 stuff these days. If few in the audience have personal experience of the frustrating inability to communicate with other-language speakers, of language-based discrimination, or of language problems in the EU, then there might be some difficulty in explaining the concept of ‘universal bilingualism’ to monolinguals [YOUR ethnic language + non-ethnic Esperanto for all]. If any linguistics majors show up, you might consider asking them why Esperanto is rarely mentioned in N. American linguistics textbooks.
(By the way, does your college library have any up-to-date books on/in Esperanto?)

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