<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Saturday night</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/</link>
	<description>Semi-geeky musings, links, and observations by an all-geeky teenager.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6</generator>
		<item>
		<title>By: Joshua McGee</title>
		<link>http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/#comment-7272</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/#comment-7272</guid>
		<description>Yeah -- you ever notice that about Mozart, too?  Philip Glass once remarked that developing a voice as a composer was not what was difficult: it was &lt;i&gt;avoiding&lt;/i&gt; what that voice told you to do.  Paraphrasing, he explained that "voice" was really a summation of a composer's solutions to problems -- that composition consisted of posing a musical problem, and then trying to solve them.

So, Mozart: the kind of &lt;i&gt;"Dah dum.  Dah dum.  Dah dum dah dum dah dum, DAAAH DUM!"&lt;/i&gt; ending to movements that we get in everything up-to-and-including the Johnny Appleseed hymn strikes sophisticated modern ears as trite -- trite only because Mozart's influence was so profound that that aspect of his voice became the universal sol- ... uh ... &lt;i&gt;solvent&lt;/i&gt;?

Sorry, where was I?

Back to Shakespeare: it used to be thought that Shakespeare invented thousands of words.  The evidence?  Shakespeare was the earliest recorded use of that word.  Morons, your bus is leaving: people bothered to &lt;i&gt;save&lt;/i&gt; Shakespeare, &lt;i&gt;that's why that's the record of it&lt;/i&gt;.  Were it not for the First Folio, we would place those words as showing up &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; Shakespeare.  Modern research -- surprise, surprise -- is showing the words centuries earlier in newly-rediscovered manuscripts.  Admire Shakespeare, but don't admire him as a wordsmith.

Similarly -- and here's the comeback to the &lt;i&gt;clich&#233;s&lt;/i&gt; comment -- they're not entirely wrong.  Shakespeare's genius wasn't in original story generation any more than it was in creating words from the &#230;ther.  Almost everything in his canon is derivative.  In Elizabethan times, there would be stories in the culture -- in books of histories, pseudo-histories, apologies, fairy tale -- and playwrights would take one of the topics and write a play about it.  His genius -- IMHO -- was &lt;i&gt;transcending&lt;/i&gt; the frequent triteness of his topics, &lt;i&gt;transcending&lt;/i&gt; the expectations of his audiences, and &lt;i&gt;rendering true art&lt;/i&gt; -- on horrific commercial deadlines -- to consumers of &lt;i&gt;entertainment&lt;/i&gt;.

Greenblatt, Will in the World, is a good source for more in this vein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah -- you ever notice that about Mozart, too?  Philip Glass once remarked that developing a voice as a composer was not what was difficult: it was <i>avoiding</i> what that voice told you to do.  Paraphrasing, he explained that "voice" was really a summation of a composer's solutions to problems -- that composition consisted of posing a musical problem, and then trying to solve them.</p>
<p>So, Mozart: the kind of <i>"Dah dum.  Dah dum.  Dah dum dah dum dah dum, DAAAH DUM!"</i> ending to movements that we get in everything up-to-and-including the Johnny Appleseed hymn strikes sophisticated modern ears as trite -- trite only because Mozart's influence was so profound that that aspect of his voice became the universal sol- ... uh ... <i>solvent</i>?</p>
<p>Sorry, where was I?</p>
<p>Back to Shakespeare: it used to be thought that Shakespeare invented thousands of words.  The evidence?  Shakespeare was the earliest recorded use of that word.  Morons, your bus is leaving: people bothered to <i>save</i> Shakespeare, <i>that's why that's the record of it</i>.  Were it not for the First Folio, we would place those words as showing up <i>after</i> Shakespeare.  Modern research -- surprise, surprise -- is showing the words centuries earlier in newly-rediscovered manuscripts.  Admire Shakespeare, but don't admire him as a wordsmith.</p>
<p>Similarly -- and here's the comeback to the <i>clich&eacute;s</i> comment -- they're not entirely wrong.  Shakespeare's genius wasn't in original story generation any more than it was in creating words from the &aelig;ther.  Almost everything in his canon is derivative.  In Elizabethan times, there would be stories in the culture -- in books of histories, pseudo-histories, apologies, fairy tale -- and playwrights would take one of the topics and write a play about it.  His genius -- IMHO -- was <i>transcending</i> the frequent triteness of his topics, <i>transcending</i> the expectations of his audiences, and <i>rendering true art</i> -- on horrific commercial deadlines -- to consumers of <i>entertainment</i>.</p>
<p>Greenblatt, Will in the World, is a good source for more in this vein.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jordon</title>
		<link>http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/#comment-7271</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/#comment-7271</guid>
		<description>Reminds me of what Lawrence Lessig said in &lt;a href="http://www.free-culture.cc/" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Free Culture&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;: "So deeply have the works of a sixteenth-century writer seeped into our culture that we often don't even recognize their source. I once overheard someone commenting on Kenneth Branagh's adaptation of Henry V: 'I liked it, but Shakespeare is so full of clichés.'"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of what Lawrence Lessig said in <a href="http://www.free-culture.cc/" rel="nofollow"><i>Free Culture</i></a>: "So deeply have the works of a sixteenth-century writer seeped into our culture that we often don't even recognize their source. I once overheard someone commenting on Kenneth Branagh's adaptation of Henry V: 'I liked it, but Shakespeare is so full of clichés.'"</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Joshua McGee</title>
		<link>http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/#comment-7270</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/#comment-7270</guid>
		<description>I read Hamlet.  Wasn't too impressed with that "Shakespeare" guy.  All he did was string a bunch of quotes together....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Hamlet.  Wasn't too impressed with that "Shakespeare" guy.  All he did was string a bunch of quotes together....</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kristen</title>
		<link>http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/#comment-7183</link>
		<dc:creator>kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.theworldofstuff.com/archives/2008/03/29/saturday-night/#comment-7183</guid>
		<description>"i can't get enough of that hamlet character."

interestingly, you're sounding more and more like a mix between the beloved holden caulfield and the equally beloved mr. chandler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"i can't get enough of that hamlet character."</p>
<p>interestingly, you're sounding more and more like a mix between the beloved holden caulfield and the equally beloved mr. chandler.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
